Toe Straps

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Toe Straps

Postby No Idea » Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:36 pm

Having had a go in Mr Enterprises boat, I discovered I would really like some toe straps.

I had a look at some webbing in b and q and decided that I would rather use some seatbelt webbing I have.

However, my boat doesnt have any rear mount for the straps.

Could you tell me where yours fit on?

Many thanks.
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Re: Toe Straps

Postby stuchizik » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:12 pm

mine are mounted 2 inches above the drain hole for the rear floatation chamber with both straps bolted through a single hole and I assume a backing plate. I'm not sure if this is factory or aftermarket. Hope this helps
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Re: Toe Straps

Postby No Idea » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:27 pm

Many thanks for that.

I thought that was probably where they went, but wasnt sure.

My boat hasnt got much strength there as its a mk 2 with a access hatch just above that point.

I will have a good look and see how I can reinforce it.

Not sure I fancy the idea of falling backwards out of the boat again any time soon
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Re: Toe Straps

Postby No Idea » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:33 am

stuchizik wrote:mine are mounted 2 inches above the drain hole for the rear floatation chamber with both straps bolted through a single hole and I assume a backing plate. I'm not sure if this is factory or aftermarket. Hope this helps


Wow !

Canada.

Havent been there

Do you race your boat, or are you cruising?
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Re: Toe Straps

Postby stuchizik » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:50 am

I don't race. I'm just learning. I'm in the same proverbial boat you were in your earlier posts, except I have the great advantage of reading the posts from you and your boys. THANKS SO MUCH. Do you know how to level the boat so i can get an accurate measurement from the transom to the black line that my boat is supposed to have? My rigging is out and the boat has weather helm. Thanks
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Re: Toe Straps

Postby Nicholas Jones » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:36 am

The best approach is to set a vertical from your transom using a spirit level and then measure horizontally and down to the step.
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Re: Toe Straps

Postby stuchizik » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:11 am

Thanks, I wasn't sure if the transom was square or raked.
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Re: Toe Straps

Postby No Idea » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:14 am

stuchizik wrote:I don't race. I'm just learning. I'm in the same proverbial boat you were in your earlier posts, except I have the great advantage of reading the posts from you and your boys. THANKS SO MUCH. Do you know how to level the boat so i can get an accurate measurement from the transom to the black line that my boat is supposed to have? My rigging is out and the boat has weather helm. Thanks



In just a few words you have just made all the hours we have spent posting worthwhile.

Thank you

My boat has massive weather helm if I sail it tipped over. You need to keep the boat upright. To start with, I used to sail with the gunnel in the water. "Flat is fast". It is also easier to sail.

Also, my boat was getting seriously out of shape because the rudder was the 1960's shape that didnt go vertical. If yours sticks out the back at 45 degrees, it needs to be fixed.

The boat also changes depending on how far forward or back you sit. Shuffling along the side can actually change how much weather helm you have.

Are your fairleads on the deck next to the shrouds? Moving them in makes the boat point a lot better and makes the front sail give more push.

Mr Jones, Mr Frith and Mr Crichton all say you can sail this boat without a rudder. Try letting out one sail or the other a bit and see what it does to handling.

Have you got tell tales on your sails?

Is your boat a mk2 or a mk3?

Thank you. You have made my day
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Re: Toe Straps

Postby stuchizik » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:21 am

The posts have really been priceless for me. I live in an area where you hardly even see a laser or a hobie on the lake much less an osprey. I have a MKII made by Glenmore sailboats in Calgary I assume. FRP with poory refinished teak cockpit. I have noticed a huge difference in handling based on my position in the boat. My rudder is sorted.
I don't understand what you mean by this: "Are your fairleads on the deck next to the shrouds? Moving them in makes the boat point a lot better and makes the front sail give more push."
If you are talking about my jib sheets they are inside the cockpit mounted on travelers on the seats.
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Re: Toe Straps

Postby No Idea » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:45 pm

Sorry for the delay.

When we first got our boat, the only place to hold the jib sheets was here.

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Having had a good look at the boats as they went out for the Poole Open, I found they had all moved their fairleads - the hole the jib rope goes through before the cleat, rope holder, and their cleats.

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Moving them in closed the window between the sails and made them able to sail closer to the wind.

The Mk3 boats have narrower side tanks than our mk 2's. They moved their forestays down the side of their tanks.

Doing this on a Mk 2 does make the main sail backwind a bit and loses a little power, but it points a lot better towards the wind.
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